On the Value of Raising Kids in a Church Family: Andrew

In this interview, Andrew shares both the deep joys and everyday struggles of fathering two young girls. He shares his desire to be fully present for his girls, while grieving not being able to do so as the provider for his family. He opens up about how fatherhood has acted as a “mirror” to his selfishness, impatience, and longings for spontaneity and freedom, and how God has used these moments to grow and strengthen his faith. Finally, he shares the value of raising his girls in a church community—something he learned being exposed to Christianity and a church family early in life.  

Photo: The L’estrelle family
  1. Please introduce yourself! 

Hi, my name is Andrew L’Estrelle, I’m 32, married to my beautiful wife Addie and together we have two girls – Emily who is 5 and Ellanor who is almost 2. We’re members at Providence Church Brisbane, having started as part of the launch team when the church was planted in 2015.  

During the week I work for the Queensland Government and hobbies these days mostly revolve around the kids or various building and improvement projects around the house. I like gardening, making/building things, and pursuing simple creative outlets like cooking. When I get the time, I really enjoy going out to the country where I grew up, spending time in nature, and enjoying the tranquility of standing on a remote hill with no civilisation in sight.  

2. What has been the greatest joy and challenge of being a Girl Dad so far?  

The greatest joy I have found in parenting has been watching my girls grow and learn. Their sense of adventure and eagerness to explore the world, asking questions about how things work and why. Watching them achieve things they couldn’t do yesterday whether it be helping Emily learn to read or seeing the joy on Ella’s face when she finally masters jumping with both feet at the same time.  

Growing into this role of ‘Dad’ has also been incredibly challenging, realising how selfish I am with my own time and desiring a level of spontaneity, freedom and independence that isn’t compatible with giving yourself up to be available and present for your kids. Working full-time and having to spend a significant portion of my week away from the kids has also been, and continues to be, a challenge for me. Switching off from work and trying to be as present as possible at the end of a long day is difficult, but as Ella runs toward me, with arms in the air screaming “DADDDAA” work quickly fades away. It’s in the little chats as I put them to bed and we try and catch up on the day that I find little moments of joy, for example, as Emily asks to pray together, and we read her bible together each night.   

Growing into this role of ‘Dad’ has also been incredibly challenging, realising how selfish I am with my own time and desiring a level of spontaneity, freedom and independence that isn’t compatible with giving yourself up to be available and present for your kids.

3. You grew up in a Christian household and attending church and have remained in the faith into adulthood. How has your early exposure to Christianity shaped the way you parent your girls today?  

I grew up in a Christian home and had the benefit of learning from and observing several solid, mature Christians as I grew up. I’m very grateful for the early exposure I had to Christianity, being in an environment where I was taught the bible and seeing Sunday church be prioritised and valued. This all provided a solid base for me to develop my knowledge of God and develop my own faith.  

I have seen lots of men who are dedicated to their church and their families, and one common observation I have is that they were all present and committed, with church and family being clear priorities in their life. This has helped me tackle my own big decisions in life like where to buy a house and live, where to work, the type of lifestyle we seek and seeking to have church and community as a central priority of our week, seeking opportunity’s to open our home and serve people to model to our girls that our faith and our church family are central priorities that guide our decision making, not an afterthought that we fit into our otherwise secular lives.  

Growing up in a Christian home has taught me the importance of providing an environment and space for my girls to learn and encounter authentic gospel community to allow them to develop their own faith in time. In 2021, I took 18 months long-term leave from work, and we sold our house and packed up all our things to build our own tiny home on wheels and travel the country together.  

We loved our time away but returned to Brisbane to provide our girls a gospel-based church to grow up in—something I believe is so important in supporting my kids as they explore the gospel for themselves at a young age. We love our church community and I’m enjoying this phase of parenting particularly as our eldest Emily has started asking more questions about the bible and faith. 

Growing up in a Christian home has taught me the importance of providing an environment and space for my girls to learn and encounter authentic gospel community to allow them to develop their own faith in time.

4. How does knowing God, the perfect Father, shape the way you parent your girls?  How has God used fatherhood to grow and sanctify you?  

The majority of the challenges I have faced in parenthood stem from my own selfishness and lack of patience, however I am coming to see joy in the mirror that parenthood holds up to our own lives as it presents opportunities for me to grow and mature in my own walk with God.  

When faced with a child who ignores my first, second and 58th reasonable request to put their socks on (insert daily struggle here), rather than being discouraged and frustrated I am reminded to stop and act out of love and patience as I hear God calling out to me with grace and love, patiently waiting for me to respond to his reasonable request to love and follow him.  

I have by no means mastered this yet, and God continues to work in my heart to grow me and to shape me as his son and as a father. I am thankful for the kids he has blessed me with, and the privilege it is to raise these two girls, and I pray that I can point them toward God’s grace and love through my parenting as they grow up and we face new and unchartered challenges together. 

Andrew opens up about how the challenge of fatherhood has grown his faith, and the value of raising children in a gospel-based church community.

By Heidi Tai

On the Joy & Grief of “Letting Go” of Adult Children: Eugene

Ahead of Father’s Day (Sunday 1st September), we’ll be sharing stories of everyday Christian fathers and how the gospel shapes their parenting. In this interview, Eugene Hor shares the joys and challenges of 24 years of fatherhood and celebrates how God has remained faithful to his children into adulthood. He also shares the difficulty of “letting go” of his adult children and how older fathers can continue to serve, lead and glorify God in their families.  

Photo: Eugene with his family members Ashleigh, Pauline and Joshua.
  1. Please introduce yourself! 

I’m Eugene and I’ve been married to Pauline for 29 years. We’ve got two young adult children. My daughter Ashleigh’s 22 and my son Joshua’s 24. I’m currently the pastor at GracePoint Presbyterian Church in Sydney, a church we planted in 1999.  

I’m not sure if I have hobbies. Pauline always says I have many interests that come and go, from archery to model cars to remote control cars to smoking meat to crossfit. The list is endless. My current interest right now is growing superhot chili peppers and making superhot sauces with my variety of reapers, scorpions and ghost peppers.  

I’m finding myself in what an older pastor once called our third season in life and ministry. In our first season we’re learners and we’re making all our mistakes. In our second season, we’re practitioners and worked out what to do because we’ve learnt from our mistakes. In our third season we’re teachers trying to work out what we can really pour into and what foundation we can leave behind for the next generation.  

I think we’re in our third season of life and ministry, and with our son getting married next year and our daughter possibly the year after, we’re trying to work out how we can best serve the gospel in the coming new season.  

  1. What has been your greatest joy and challenge as a father recently?  

More recently my greatest joy as a father has been seeing both our children speak of GracePoint as their church, a church they love and want to continue serving at. They’ve approached disruption taking place in our church community with a maturity and love that I’ve been incredibly thankful for. That was always a worry for me when they were growing up, as church wasn’t always a place they wanted to be. There were seasons where church was boring, or they didn’t have peers and so didn’t want to go. But if you’re a pastor’s kid it’s not that easy bailing out on Sunday church growing up. I’m thankful it didn’t make them resentful, and I’m thankful that God kept them all these years.  

I remember on our way to church one Sunday in the car when Joshua, who was in year 8 at the time, said, ‘I don’t want to go to church, it’s boring, it’s not fun.’ I remember using it as a teaching moment, asking him if he wanted to be a boy or a man one day. He said he wanted to be a man, and I remember saying to him that boys only want to have fun, but men do hard things. When things are no longer fun, they bail or run away.  

Men take responsibility and do what’s good and right, even if it’s hard and boring, like Jesus. Men take responsibility and serve others, even when it’s hard and boring, like Jesus. Men take responsibility and care for others, even when it’s hard and boring, like Jesus. I told him that if all you want to do is have fun, you’ll never grow up to be a man. And church isn’t always going to be easy or fun, but we go because it’s good and right, and we go because we care and want to serve others like Jesus. I don’t know if he fully understood, but when I asked him again if he wanted to be a boy or a man, he said he wanted to be a man. That’s been a real joy for me seeing both our children do hard things when it comes to church and life, in being committed to loving and serving others like Jesus.  

Church isn’t always going to be easy or fun, but we go because it’s good and right, and we go because we care and want to serve others like Jesus.

In terms of a challenge as a father, I think it’s challenging to let go as your kids get older. I’m certainly finding that hard. Pauline keeps reminding me that they’re independent young adults who will ask me for help if they need it. I still over-function as a dad and feel the need to do things for them even when help is unsolicited. Ashleigh recently said to me that she is informing me that she is going to Korea later this year for holidays, rather than asking me, as she knows what my response would be if she asked.  

That’s challenging for me as I still see them as children who need my help and protection. I suspect they do, but not as dependent children, but as independent young adults. It’s challenging for me to make that shift. Part of making that shift is to recognise that I won’t always be able to be there for them as they leave home, but they will always have a heavenly Father who loves them and will care for them much more than I could ever do. I need to entrust them to his providential care and protection, and they need to look to him even more so as young adults. 

  1. How has knowing God the perfect Father shaped the way you fathered your own children?  

Knowing God as a perfect Father has shaped the way I’ve fathered my children in two ways.  

Firstly, it’s recognising that I’ll never be a perfect father to my children. I’m not just finite but also flawed and sinful. I might not be the perfect Dad and I can’t always be there for them, but they’ll always have a heavenly Father who’ll be there for them, and who’ll never fail them or disappoint them. So even as a Dad I always want to point them to their heavenly Father, a father who’ll always love them and be there for them. It was my practice all through high school when we dropped them off at school or when they caught the bus, to send them a SMS with a verse from the Psalms or a bible verse to let them know I’d be praying God’s presence, promises or truth for them, reminding them that they were never alone. It was my way of saying, ‘Daddy can’t always be there with you, but your heavenly Father will always be there for you, look to him and trust him.’  

Secondly, it’s given me a better understanding of what it means to be a father the way God has been a perfect Father to me in two ways. He’s been a perfect Father who has loved me unconditionally and completely in the giving of his Son for me. That’s a reminder to me that I will always be loved even when I’ve failed. He’s also been a perfect Father who has powerfully overcome the one thing that can destroy me forever in the raising up of his Son over death for me. That’s a reminder to me that I’ll always be safe even when life is uncertain.  

So even as a Dad I always want to communicate those two things to them as children.  

I wanted them to always know that ‘Daddy will always love you and Daddy is always here for you even when things are hard.’ Practically this meant being physically present and available. Ashleigh certainly knew that and often took advantage of that as she would sometimes call me in the middle of my work meetings, knowing I would always pick up if she called – often to ask me if I could get her Krispy Kreme donuts on the way home. My kids have always grown up knowing that I will always be present and available for them.  

I might not be the perfect Dad and I can’t always be there for them, but they’ll always have a heavenly Father who’ll be there for them, and who’ll never fail them or disappoint them.

  1. Your children are now young adults. How can fathers of older children continue serving and leading their family for God’s glory?  

I think as a father to adult children one of the ways we can continue serving and leading our families for God’s glory is to keep modelling to them the grace of the gospel in our lives and inviting them to walk with us the way we’ve walked with them growing up.  

When they’re small they see it lived out in the way we serve and relate to others. As they grow into adulthood, we should be able to share more with them, and we should be able to invite them to walk with us in our personal challenges and ministry. When the kids were small, we would pray for them and instruct them. While we still pray for them and we give them unsolicited instruction as parents do, we also now share more with them, and we often seek their prayer and counsel in life and ministry. One could say that we need to see our children as partners in the gospel as they grow up. 

  1. God has blessed you with two children who have remained faithful in the Lord. What is one piece of advice that you would give to new dads this Father’s Day?  

God has been gracious, and I don’t think we’ve done anything special that has led to our children remaining faithful to the Lord. We have, however, been committed to God’s ordinary means of grace for his people.  

I would say this to any new Dad: Give yourself to regular prayer for yourself and for your children. Open the Bible and regularly read the word to your children. Help them know and understand God’s promises to them in the gospel. Teach and instruct them in living out God’s truth. Make Sunday worship with God’s people a priority as a family. Don’t deny them the sacrament of baptism as they’re children of God’s covenant community. Don’t deny them the promises of the gospel in the sign and seal of baptism. Give yourself to serving God’s people at church and involve them in serving with you.  

Model for your children what it means to be a father who loves unconditionally and protects, the way your Heavenly Father has been a father to you in Jesus. More than anything else, recognise that you won’t always be a perfect Dad, but your children will always have a heavenly Father who has loved them in Jesus, and who wants to and will always be there for them. Always point them to him. 

Eugene shares the joy and grief of "letting go" of adult children, and how older Dads can continue to serve, lead and glorify God in their families.

By Heidi Tai

On Balancing Work and Parenting as a Toddler Dad: Joshua 

Ahead of Father’s Day (Sunday 1st September), we’ll be sharing stories of everyday Christian fathers and how the gospel shapes their parenting. In the first of the series, Joshua Fernandez shares the joys and challenges of fathering a high-energy toddler, how he strives to model God’s character as a Christian dad, and learning to balance family duties with work in a male-dominated Trades Industry. We hope you are encouraged by his story!

Photo: Joshua and his son, Leon.
  1. Hi Josh! Please introduce yourself!  

My name is Joshua Fernandez, and I am the husband of Katherine and father to Leon. I attend Fellowship Baptist Church in Lalor Park and have been there since I was 6 years old. My trade is a Security Technician, where I provide security and access to commercial and residential buildings through CCTV cameras, automatic doors, FOB access, alarms, etc. My hobbies include exercising, watching anime, playing video games, and throwing my son around the room because he enjoys flying and being upside down.  

  1. What has been your greatest joy and challenge in being a new father so far?  

The greatest joy and challenge so far in being a new father is the shaping and moulding of the character of my son. It’s the greatest joy seeing Leon grow and learn new things, discovering his likes and dislikes, figuring out the limitations of his current physicality, and trying to understand where his “off” button is because he seems to have endless energy. The challenge is keeping up with his endless energy, keeping calm when he has a tantrum, and trying to feed him when he’s hungry but also doesn’t want to eat at the same time, just to name a few.  

Finding balance when it comes to providing material things is another challenge. Growing up in an Asian and financially strict household has caused me to just buy the things my son wants (namely Monster Truck and Hot Wheels). It’s my way of making up for the things I missed out on when I was younger. There’s no greater feeling than making your child happy and seeing him fall asleep in the pram, holding a Hot Wheel car. The other side of that coin is also the challenge of making sure Leon understands that life isn’t always going to go the way you want it to. We aren’t going to be happy all the time, and we aren’t always going to get a Hot Wheel every time we ask for one.  

  1. How does knowing God, the perfect Father shape the way you parent your son?  

My goal as a father, and obligation as a God-fearing man, is to emulate God the Father and his character so that Leon might see God in me. In doing so, I hope he can look to do the same for his life, as he grows to understand God and Christianity.  

We, as sinners, can’t live to the standards of God all the time but we can continually and daily strive to live as God wants us to live. So, I daily strive to show God’s love, patience, and understanding, so that Leon may grow up knowing and understanding the right way to live, as well as who God is, and His position in my life. By showing my own failings and weaknesses to Leon and helping him understand why Papa still gets mad and makes mistakes, I can put God and His characteristics as the highest and perfect standard for Leon to strive for.  

  1. You work in a male-dominated Trades Industry that isn’t always friendly towards fathers who want to prioritise home duties. Can you share examples of how you have tried to be a witness in this culture?  

I have been blessed and fortunate to not have experienced too much of this firsthand. There is only one instance where I was guilt tripped into coming back to work right after my son had just been born, but it ended as a non-hostile conversation, and it ended with me going on parental leave 2 weeks earlier than the dates I had applied for. My current co-workers are all about family, so it’s been easy to prioritise home and family before work, without being degraded for it. 

As a Tradie, I make an effort to continue putting my family first, despite work and the deadlines that come with it. By putting family first, I can show those around me that life is more than just work, but a means God gives to us to provide for our families and to exercise creativity, practicality and problem solving outside of family. 

  1. If you could share one piece of advice to new fathers this Father’s Day what would it be?  

The one piece of advice I can share would be to be more proactive within the home, help your wife out where you can and be mindful of how your wife and children are feeling. Doing the little things count. Washing baby bottles, folding laundry, loading and starting the dishwasher, preparing dinner. All these things help even if only a little bit. 

Don’t get me wrong – you can make time for yourself and your hobbies, but don’t let your time come before your wife and child’s needs. There will be difficult days where it seems like everything you do is for everyone but yourself, but your wife will appreciate all that you do, and your children will see how present their father is.  

Our duty as fathers isn’t just to physically provide for our families but to provide, sustain, and nurture the mental and spiritual aspects of our families. With God’s grace and strength, we have the ability to do these things and more.  

Joshua shares the joys and challenges of fathering a toddler and learning to balance family duties with work in a male-dominated Trades Industry.

By Heidi Tai
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